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Rode NT-SF1 and Zylia ZM-1
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Gary Gallagher
2018-10-19 06:30:37 UTC
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Had my first play with these microphones. The Rode NT-SF1 is a gorgeous
sounding mic very rich sounding out of the box. I know there were some
misgivings on the forum about the Zylia but it's a good mic as well. It's
very clean and has a flatter frequency response. One idiosyncraticy is that
it has a fixed level for recording. The ambisonic file it generated had
quite low levels and I had to apply a lot of gain. Fortunately it has a
very low noise floor and didn't pull any noticeable noise with the gain. It
really is a 3rd order ambisonic mic, the spatial resolution is a lot
sharper than the Rode. I also tried the SPARTA array2sh plugin using the
Zylia settings, it worked quite well although it didn't seem as rich
sounding as the official plugin, emphasizing the higher frequencies (though
from the announcement made by the developers it sounded like they were
waiting for an actual microphone to refine the settings).

I really like the richness of NT-SF1 but if I was chasing spatial
resolution the ZM-1 would be the better choice.

Gary
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Courville, Daniel
2018-10-19 16:24:11 UTC
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Hi,

First off, I didn’t have the opportunity to test neither the NT-SF1 nor the ZM-1.

But, I would point that the NT-SF1, like other 1st order mics, can benefit from spatial resolution upmixing/upsampling using plug-ins like Harpex or the NT-SF1 own « SoundField by RØDE ». According to this page http://research.spa.aalto.fi/projects/sparta_vsts/plugins.html, there should be an eventual upmixing plug-in in the SPARTA suite.

So, if one is really enamoured by the timbral qualities of a particular 1st order mic, but needs the added spatial resolution, there’s a solution for that.

Cheers,

Daniel
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 17:30:37 +1100
Subject: [Sursound] Rode NT-SF1 and Zylia ZM-1
I really like the richness of NT-SF1 but if I was chasing spatial
resolution the ZM-1 would be the better choice.
Gary Gallagher
2018-10-20 21:21:43 UTC
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Yes, and the ZM-1 could probably benefit from a smidge of EQ (any
suggestions?). To be honest if I wasn't juxtaposing the microphones I'd be
happy with either. With the ZM-1 the difference between the spatial
resolution of a 1st order and 3rd order mic had, up until that moment, only
been theoretical.

The only other major difference between them is work flow. If you have a
field recorder the NT-SF1 probably makes more sense, if you're laptop based
the ZM-1.

Regards
Gary
Post by Courville, Daniel
Hi,
First off, I didn’t have the opportunity to test neither the NT-SF1 nor the ZM-1.
But, I would point that the NT-SF1, like other 1st order mics, can benefit
from spatial resolution upmixing/upsampling using plug-ins like Harpex or
the NT-SF1 own « SoundField by RØDE ». According to this page
http://research.spa.aalto.fi/projects/sparta_vsts/plugins.html, there
should be an eventual upmixing plug-in in the SPARTA suite.
So, if one is really enamoured by the timbral qualities of a particular
1st order mic, but needs the added spatial resolution, there’s a solution
for that.
Cheers,
Daniel
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 17:30:37 +1100
Subject: [Sursound] Rode NT-SF1 and Zylia ZM-1
I really like the richness of NT-SF1 but if I was chasing spatial
resolution the ZM-1 would be the better choice.
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Courville, Daniel
2018-10-21 16:21:54 UTC
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Matthias Kronlachner « mcfx_filter » from his mcfx suite of multichannel plug-ins. http://www.matthiaskronlachner.com/?p=1910

You can try EQing the A-Format.

He also makes a suite of Ambisonics plug-ins, ambiX. http://www.matthiaskronlachner.com/?p=2015

Le 21 oct. 2018 12:00 -0400, ***@music.vt.edu <***@music.vt.edu>, a écrit :

Yes, and the ZM-1 could probably benefit from a smidge of EQ (any
suggestions?).
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eduardo.patricio zylia.pl
2018-10-22 08:14:41 UTC
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This is an interesting equalizer for HOA:

https://www.ssa-plugins.com/product/aXequalizer/
Trial download: https://www.ssa-plugins.com/demo-plugins/


Eduardo
Post by Courville, Daniel
Matthias Kronlachner « mcfx_filter » from his mcfx suite of multichannel plug-ins. http://www.matthiaskronlachner.com/?p=1910
You can try EQing the A-Format.
He also makes a suite of Ambisonics plug-ins, ambiX. http://www.matthiaskronlachner.com/?p=2015
Yes, and the ZM-1 could probably benefit from a smidge of EQ (any
suggestions?).
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Jack Reynolds
2018-10-22 08:29:57 UTC
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Flux Evo Channel is fave for this sort of thing.

https://www.flux.audio/project/evo-channel/

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Post by eduardo.patricio zylia.pl
https://www.ssa-plugins.com/product/aXequalizer/
Trial download: https://www.ssa-plugins.com/demo-plugins/
Eduardo
Post by Courville, Daniel
Matthias Kronlachner « mcfx_filter » from his mcfx suite of multichannel plug-ins. http://www.matthiaskronlachner.com/?p=1910
You can try EQing the A-Format.
He also makes a suite of Ambisonics plug-ins, ambiX. http://www.matthiaskronlachner.com/?p=2015
Yes, and the ZM-1 could probably benefit from a smidge of EQ (any
suggestions?).
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