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Waves NX head tracker and third party applications
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Hector Centeno
2017-11-06 16:17:59 UTC
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Hello,

I got a Waves NX Head Tracker [
https://www.waves.com/hardware/nx-head-tracker ] and I was wondering if
anyone here has managed to use the Bluetooth transmitted data for other
applications than the Waves ones? From what I found seems like the data
transmitted is encoded but I just wanted to double check in case someone
has found something different. I find both the Waves VST plugin and their
mobile app a bit inferior in sound quality, particularly the mobile app, so
I was wondering if I could manage to use the tracker with other
applications.

Cheers!

Hector
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Dave Hunt
2017-11-06 18:15:57 UTC
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Hi Hector,

This is probably very similar to the one Audioease are offering to drive their "360 pan suite" set of plug-ins

https://www.audioease.com/360/

You have to scroll down a bit to find the head tracker. The manual gives more info in its appendix

https://www.audioease.com/360/files/360pan-suite-3-Pro-Tools-Manual-1.0.pdf

I think you're right, the data is encoded. Max or pd may be able to decode it, though I can't find any note of it on the user forum. Some have used similar devices, and have used Arduino to descramble the data.

This is all beyond my coding abilities, especially as I haven't been able to find any explanation of the coding and how to derive meaningful orientation data from it. Obviously you have to be fairly advanced coder, who knows where to find the library and know how to use, it to get going. Perhaps it is only available to OEM developers ??

If anyone knows how to get started that could keep some of us busy. I'd love one of these that works with my Max patches, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Ciao,

Dave Hunt





> 1. Waves NX head tracker and third party applications
> (Hector Centeno)
>
> From: Hector Centeno <***@gmail.com>
> Subject: [Sursound] Waves NX head tracker and third party applications
> Date: 6 November 2017 16:17:59 GMT
> To: ***@music.vt.edu
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I got a Waves NX Head Tracker [
> https://www.waves.com/hardware/nx-head-tracker ] and I was wondering if
> anyone here has managed to use the Bluetooth transmitted data for other
> applications than the Waves ones? From what I found seems like the data
> transmitted is encoded but I just wanted to double check in case someone
> has found something different. I find both the Waves VST plugin and their
> mobile app a bit inferior in sound quality, particularly the mobile app, so
> I was wondering if I could manage to use the tracker with other
> applications.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Hector
Hector Centeno
2017-11-06 18:34:49 UTC
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Hello Dave,

Thank you for the reply. Yes, I've seen the Audioease one before and seems
like it's based on a generic IMU module so that one should be easy to reuse
for other projects. I've developed Arduino based trackers before but I just
wanted to find a good use for the Waves tracker. I also considered adding
support for the NX tracker to my AmbiExplorer Android app and I emailed
them asking if they would support third party apps to use their tracker but
got a negative response. They are not supporting that at all. The nice
thing about the NX tracker is that is very compact and lightweight.

Best,

Hector



On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 1:16 PM Dave Hunt <***@btinternet.com>
wrote:

> Hi Hector,
>
> This is probably very similar to the one Audioease are offering to drive
> their "360 pan suite" set of plug-ins
>
> https://www.audioease.com/360/
>
> You have to scroll down a bit to find the head tracker. The manual gives
> more info in its appendix
>
> https://www.audioease.com/360/files/360pan-suite-3-Pro-Tools-Manual-1.0.pdf
>
> I think you're right, the data is encoded. Max or pd may be able to decode
> it, though I can't find any note of it on the user forum. Some have used
> similar devices, and have used Arduino to descramble the data.
>
> This is all beyond my coding abilities, especially as I haven't been able
> to find any explanation of the coding and how to derive meaningful
> orientation data from it. Obviously you have to be fairly advanced coder,
> who knows where to find the library and know how to use, it to get going.
> Perhaps it is only available to OEM developers ??
>
> If anyone knows how to get started that could keep some of us busy. I'd
> love one of these that works with my Max patches, and I'm sure I'm not the
> only one.
>
> Ciao,
>
> Dave Hunt
>
>
>
>
>
> > 1. Waves NX head tracker and third party applications
> > (Hector Centeno)
> >
> > From: Hector Centeno <***@gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Sursound] Waves NX head tracker and third party applications
> > Date: 6 November 2017 16:17:59 GMT
> > To: ***@music.vt.edu
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I got a Waves NX Head Tracker [
> > https://www.waves.com/hardware/nx-head-tracker ] and I was wondering if
> > anyone here has managed to use the Bluetooth transmitted data for other
> > applications than the Waves ones? From what I found seems like the data
> > transmitted is encoded but I just wanted to double check in case someone
> > has found something different. I find both the Waves VST plugin and their
> > mobile app a bit inferior in sound quality, particularly the mobile app,
> so
> > I was wondering if I could manage to use the tracker with other
> > applications.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Hector
>
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Oliver Larkin
2017-11-06 19:25:32 UTC
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this is a nice DIY headtracker https://git.iem.at/DIY/MrHeadTracker <https://git.iem.at/DIY/MrHeadTracker> , not wireless but neither are my headphones



> On 6 Nov 2017, at 18:34, Hector Centeno <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Dave,
>
> Thank you for the reply. Yes, I've seen the Audioease one before and seems
> like it's based on a generic IMU module so that one should be easy to reuse
> for other projects. I've developed Arduino based trackers before but I just
> wanted to find a good use for the Waves tracker. I also considered adding
> support for the NX tracker to my AmbiExplorer Android app and I emailed
> them asking if they would support third party apps to use their tracker but
> got a negative response. They are not supporting that at all. The nice
> thing about the NX tracker is that is very compact and lightweight.
>
> Best,
>
> Hector
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 1:16 PM Dave Hunt <***@btinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Hector,
>>
>> This is probably very similar to the one Audioease are offering to drive
>> their "360 pan suite" set of plug-ins
>>
>> https://www.audioease.com/360/
>>
>> You have to scroll down a bit to find the head tracker. The manual gives
>> more info in its appendix
>>
>> https://www.audioease.com/360/files/360pan-suite-3-Pro-Tools-Manual-1.0.pdf
>>
>> I think you're right, the data is encoded. Max or pd may be able to decode
>> it, though I can't find any note of it on the user forum. Some have used
>> similar devices, and have used Arduino to descramble the data.
>>
>> This is all beyond my coding abilities, especially as I haven't been able
>> to find any explanation of the coding and how to derive meaningful
>> orientation data from it. Obviously you have to be fairly advanced coder,
>> who knows where to find the library and know how to use, it to get going.
>> Perhaps it is only available to OEM developers ??
>>
>> If anyone knows how to get started that could keep some of us busy. I'd
>> love one of these that works with my Max patches, and I'm sure I'm not the
>> only one.
>>
>> Ciao,
>>
>> Dave Hunt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> 1. Waves NX head tracker and third party applications
>>> (Hector Centeno)
>>>
>>> From: Hector Centeno <***@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [Sursound] Waves NX head tracker and third party applications
>>> Date: 6 November 2017 16:17:59 GMT
>>> To: ***@music.vt.edu
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I got a Waves NX Head Tracker [
>>> https://www.waves.com/hardware/nx-head-tracker ] and I was wondering if
>>> anyone here has managed to use the Bluetooth transmitted data for other
>>> applications than the Waves ones? From what I found seems like the data
>>> transmitted is encoded but I just wanted to double check in case someone
>>> has found something different. I find both the Waves VST plugin and their
>>> mobile app a bit inferior in sound quality, particularly the mobile app,
>> so
>>> I was wondering if I could manage to use the tracker with other
>>> applications.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> Hector
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sursound mailing list
>> ***@music.vt.edu
>> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here,
>> edit account or options, view archives and so on.
>>
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Daniel Sasso
2017-11-07 10:24:18 UTC
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Try this one

http://nvsonic.io/projects/diy-3d-audio-head-tracker/


All the best

Daniel


-----Mensagem Original-----
From: Hector Centeno
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 4:34 PM
To: Surround Sound discussion group
Subject: Re: [Sursound] Waves NX head tracker and third party applications

Hello Dave,

Thank you for the reply. Yes, I've seen the Audioease one before and seems
like it's based on a generic IMU module so that one should be easy to reuse
for other projects. I've developed Arduino based trackers before but I just
wanted to find a good use for the Waves tracker. I also considered adding
support for the NX tracker to my AmbiExplorer Android app and I emailed
them asking if they would support third party apps to use their tracker but
got a negative response. They are not supporting that at all. The nice
thing about the NX tracker is that is very compact and lightweight.

Best,

Hector



On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 1:16 PM Dave Hunt <***@btinternet.com>
wrote:

> Hi Hector,
>
> This is probably very similar to the one Audioease are offering to drive
> their "360 pan suite" set of plug-ins
>
> https://www.audioease.com/360/
>
> You have to scroll down a bit to find the head tracker. The manual gives
> more info in its appendix
>
> https://www.audioease.com/360/files/360pan-suite-3-Pro-Tools-Manual-1.0.pdf
>
> I think you're right, the data is encoded. Max or pd may be able to decode
> it, though I can't find any note of it on the user forum. Some have used
> similar devices, and have used Arduino to descramble the data.
>
> This is all beyond my coding abilities, especially as I haven't been able
> to find any explanation of the coding and how to derive meaningful
> orientation data from it. Obviously you have to be fairly advanced coder,
> who knows where to find the library and know how to use, it to get going.
> Perhaps it is only available to OEM developers ??
>
> If anyone knows how to get started that could keep some of us busy. I'd
> love one of these that works with my Max patches, and I'm sure I'm not the
> only one.
>
> Ciao,
>
> Dave Hunt
>
>
>
>
>
> > 1. Waves NX head tracker and third party applications
> > (Hector Centeno)
> >
> > From: Hector Centeno <***@gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Sursound] Waves NX head tracker and third party applications
> > Date: 6 November 2017 16:17:59 GMT
> > To: ***@music.vt.edu
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I got a Waves NX Head Tracker [
> > https://www.waves.com/hardware/nx-head-tracker ] and I was wondering if
> > anyone here has managed to use the Bluetooth transmitted data for other
> > applications than the Waves ones? From what I found seems like the data
> > transmitted is encoded but I just wanted to double check in case someone
> > has found something different. I find both the Waves VST plugin and
> > their
> > mobile app a bit inferior in sound quality, particularly the mobile app,
> so
> > I was wondering if I could manage to use the tracker with other
> > applications.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Hector
>
> _______________________________________________
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> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here,
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